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Ben Wilson
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(7/30/01 11:37:32 am)
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20v Workshop manuals
Do any Toyota dealers over there carry engine manuals for the 20v?

A few of us here in Australia are looking at getting one.

Bill Sherwood
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Posts: 56
(7/30/01 9:40:34 pm)
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If they're available from a Toyota dealer I can pick one up from Tuesday to Thursday sometime, as I'll be in Auckland those days.
Let me know ....


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shano2
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(8/1/01 12:53:04 pm)
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YES PLEASE - count me in too :)

Bill,

Umm is that THIS Tuesday to Thursday or ANY tuesday to Thursday??? And which part of NZ will you be in???

I have heard they are available from Toyota in South Africa, I could be mistaken but I think it was you, Ben, that gave me the link to Toyota S.A.....

www.toyota.co.za/



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Edited by: shano2  at: 8/1/01 1:28:48 pm
shano2
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(8/2/01 5:22:53 pm)
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Ben (& others),

I emailed Toyota twice their first reponce was -

Dear Mr Wright

Thank you for your email to Toyota New Zealand regarding engine workshop manuals.

As Toyota New Zealand does not export any product to Australia we suggest you access the Toyota Motor Corporation Japan website. This website can be accessed through the Toyota New Zealadn website at www.toyota.co.nz <www.toyota.co.nz> by choosing Inside Toytoa and clicking on the
Global button.

Due to Toyota New Zealand's franchise and distributor agreements with Toyota Motor Corporation Japan, we can only supply Toyota products to customers within New Zealand and as such we are not in a position to supply manuals to you. All information relating to New Zealand new vehicles can be obtained from our website.

Once again thank you for your email and providing us with the opportunity to clarify our position.

Yours sincerely
Katrina Hopkins
Customer Dialogue Centre Representative


I emailed them back in relation to someone picking them up over there and their responce was -

Dear Mr Wright

Thank you for your further email date August 1 2001.

The engine you are referring to is only available in Japanese Domestic vehicles and as such the repair manuals are not available in English.

Your local Dealer may be able to purchase one from Japan on your behalf, however it will be in Japanese and will need translating.

Once again thank you for your email, we apologise we are unable to be of further assistance.

Yours sincerely
Katrina Hopkins
Customer Dialogue Centre Representative


:(



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Ben Wilson
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Posts: 6
(8/3/01 10:13:47 am)
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That's really odd, I've got a scanned page here in English..

freezup
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(8/3/01 10:27:03 am)
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I think you would be better off asking on Club4AG cos the 20v was never sold here. But it was sold in SA apparently. Someone on Club4AG (can't remember his name, he drives a AE111 BG-R I think) went into Toyota and bought one of the manuals in English...

andrew | Toyota Trueno GT-Z

alonzo69
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(8/3/01 6:39:56 pm)
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I email toyota SA a few times to no avail.

Toyota here dont have them and apparently cant order them, unless you want one of those ones that tells you how to put your seatbelt on and change gear etc.

I have seen some talk on club4ag about one that was for the blacktop, not the silvertop in english, dunno where they got it, but i know it exists cos i got a scanned page of it.

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Bill Sherwood
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Posts: 57
(8/5/01 11:39:19 am)
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Got it - Just have to get some time to photocopy it now. ;)
Also got a Gen 3 3SGE manual, too.
Also also got some veyr good pics of naked silver and blacktop 20v heads. Most interesting the small differences they have. I'll be adding them to my site when I get a chance.


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MechaMegloManiac
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(8/5/01 10:30:43 pm)
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Big feckin deal...I've got both heads...3 actually in my garage.Ron Hellenbrand needs your expertise at club 4ag...why dont you post there any more??why do you come here?the only place you have left me to assist people with experience instead of talk and photos?I geuss now you want Ben Wilson(who knows more about the GE variations and PGM than you will on your best day) to run after you like the other no-nothings??...your a weird little man Bill,you really are.

Smuggla.

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Bill Sherwood
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(8/5/01 11:00:45 pm)
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So why do you feel it necessary to create trouble without provocation yet again????

I haven't posted much of anywhere for a while because I've spent the majority of the last couple of weeks either racing on a real race track with real racers, travelling around the world either working or visiting people (Just put the deposit on the Fraser a few days ago in Auckland), or generally being otherwise busy. I don't live in front of a computer and so occasionally I'm away from it for weeks at a time. It's happened before so it should be no surprise ...
I've got no idea what you're on about with Ben, I'm only trying to help him. You may well be right with 'PGM', as I don't know what you're talking about. And if he knows more than me, (quite possible) then why is he also a 'no-nothing' ?
I may well be weird, (who can tell?) but at two metres tall I am certainly not little.
I don't know why you bother coming here if all you do is create trouble. You have a perfectly good forum of your own to write your insane ramblings on, so why not go there?


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MechaMegloManiac
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(8/6/01 10:33:50 am)
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You owe me 10 grand,friends of mine in the real world were waiting on you to build a car and teach me a lesson,so were many others.Twist it any way you like,you forfeited,you knew you were never going to come up with the goods,I cant believe you have the ordasity to show your sorry arse at any forum,you posted the challenge and I'm not forgetting that.I've been assisting people with info on the 20V for quite some time,unfortuntely,even yourself,now you have photo's??
of who's work this time? certainly not yours,why dont you just post the manual part number and let others purchase it,instead of having to deal with your tiresome ego? Have you worked out what stuffed Ron Hellenbrands engine? apart from your illadvice?You would not last 1 damn lap with me buddy,piss in your own pocket all you want,but,I and others know the truth...your a never was has been.

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Bill Sherwood
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(8/6/01 5:42:43 pm)
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Yawn .... why do you bother trying this same stuff over and over again when it's so obvious a bunch of lies?

"You owe me 10 grand,friends of mine in the real world were waiting on you to build a car and teach me a lesson,so were many others"

Once again, the race was to determine who stayed at Club 4ag and who didn't. You got kicked off so there is no point in having the race. I'm still quite happy to race you to shut you up, but I have no doubts that as you have shown in the past when the time comes to put up or shut up, you always come up with some bizarre excuse to get out of it. Once again there's now absolutely no rush to get it out of the way and so I'll do it when the car is ready, and that will be pretty much when I damnwell like.
Until that race is run, there is no winner and so no money can even be thought of changing hands, that should be simply enough for even you to understand.
I have still yet to see any pertinent rules proposed from you at any time.



"I've been assisting people with info on the 20V for quite some time,unfortuntely,even yourself,now you have photo's??"

Yes, you have on rare occasions helped people with some info on 20v's, but it largely consists of reading a part number out of a manual. Really not all that difficult to do.
Please quote any[/i] time at all when you 'helped' me with the 20v. I cannot remember learning a single thing from your writings. And yes, I have some very good photo's that I got from someone that really knows what they're doing.



"of who's work this time? certainly not yo


Toyota actually; They're both dead stock heads. They are obviously not of my engines as I have never owned a 20v and never will.



"why dont you just post the manual part number and let others purchase it"

The copy I have is a copy, and it doesn't have a part number on the front, only the letters MT2001. I am quite happy to spend some time scanning the manual for my own refernce, and if anyone wants to have a look they have borrow a CD from me at any time.



"Have you worked out what stuffed Ron Hellenbrands engine? apart from your illadvice?"

Yes, it's literally a five minute fix once the engine is apart. All that needs to be done is to put a small 45° chamfer on the outer ends of the gudgeon pins to help hold the retainers in place and that's that.
As for my ill-advice, once again I don't recall anyone saying that Accralite make bad pistons. Well, okay, you said it but then again you don't know what makes up a good piston or not. I can even remember how in Club 4ag some months ago how you recommended to Lotus7Racer to use Carillo rods in his engine, but a mere few weeks ago on this very forum you said that they were "... used,inferior parts". How can this be? One minute they're the best thing available, and then another 'inferior parts'.



"You would not last 1 damn lap with me buddy"

I've managed a good eleven years of racing so far, how about you? I ran at Willowbank last weekend and in the last race had to start from pit lane and only got away a full twenty seconds behind the rest of the field (long story) but by the end of the race I crossed the line in 3rd place. If I'd gotten away about 1.5 seconds quicker I would've been 2nd.
What's your best track effort?
A 'lap' doesn't consist of traffic light to traffic light. :)



"piss in your own pocket all you want,but,I and others know the truth...your a never was has been."

Who would that be? All the other inhabitants of Smuggler Fantasy Land™? (Ie, Me, Myself, and I)
Just toddle off to your forum, there's people talking about you there. I bet you think they're gay. :lol


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